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Friday, June 1, 2012

Can I Get the Disney Dining Plan if I'm not staying at a Disney Resort?

Walt Disney World|Dining Plan|Offsite Options

Disney Dining Plan

You've probably heard a lot about the Disney Dining Plan. Maybe you know someone who has been to Disney World with the Dining Plan and come back raving about it. You, however, are staying with friends or relatives, so you have to ask,"Can I get the Disney Dining Plan if I'm staying somewhere else?"

In a word, NO. According to the official Walt Disney World website, "Disney dining plans are options available exclusively to Guests of select Walt Disney World Resort hotels with Magic Your Way Vacation Packages."

There are pros and cons to this,my friend.

Con: Most people with the Dining Plan try to maximize their table service credits by using them for the most expensive meals available - dinners and Character Meals as well as Signature Meals & Dinner Shows. What this means for you if you aren't on a Dining Plan: Dinner reservations at any Character Meal or well-known Table Service restaurant are going to be very hard to come by. (Trust me, I've been in your shoes & tried.)

Pro: This frees up reservations at great restaurants for lunch! Character breakfasts and lunches are also fairly easy to get. And, even better for you - these are the least expensive restaurant meals.

We had no problems getting reservations at the Princess Breakfast at Akershus and lunch at Sanaa on short notice. Check out the menus - lunch & dinner entrees are often very similar so you won't be missing out on the famed specialities of the house. You'll just be getting them at a lower price.

Nine Dragons
Another upside - anyone with the Dining Plan probably wants to use their Counter/Quick service or Snack credits for lunch. You avoid the crowds at these places if you chose a Table Service restaurant for lunch. No waiting in long lines with hungry kids at lunchtime. And you get to eat in air conditioned comfort! We walked into Nine Dragons at EPCOT and were seated immediately for lunch.

Pro: At dinner the opposite is true. Many people are eating at table service restaurants so you can eat at the less expensive (and less crowded) Counter & Quick Service Restaurants without long lines. And that means you have more time for rides in the cooler evening hours!

Con: You have to budget for your meals and pay for them every day. It can be hard to look at a $150 bill for a Character breakfast. Paying for the combined package removes some of the sticker shock. It's a bit like removing a band aid - you just rip it off and are done.

Sunshine Seasons
I know - you're worried that not having the Dining Plan may cost you more money and one of your goals to staying off property was to save a little money. Here's my comparison:

OPTION A: STAYING AT A DISNEY REOSRT
Right now (May 2012) the estimate for a 6 night stay in a Family Suite at the Disney All Star Music Resort with Magic Your Way Plus Dining was roughly $4,500 (not including taxes) for our family of four (2 adults, 1 junior, 1 child). The costs will vary somewhat according to the ages of your children. Kids under 3 are free (but don't get any meal credits). Children 10 and over are counted as adults and priced accordingly.


There are undoubtedly a few incidental expenses even with the Magic Your Way package. For instance, alcoholic and speciality drinks as well as most photo packages aren't included in the Dining Plan. Somehow, I bet most people end up paying for a few extras even if they are on the Dining Plan.
Sushi at the Kona Cafe
Tips aren't included in the price of the Dining Plan package. After a meal the receipt will show the credits someone on the Dining Plan used for that meal as well as "Guest ID" which is "Gratuity and other charges not covered by the Disney Dining Plan, charged to room." Most bills include a small card describing the suggested gratuity - typically 18-20%. Let's say the parents each order one alcoholic drink per dinner at $8-10 per glass. For a family like ours tips & drinks over 6 nights would add about $175-250 to the cost of dining. So the total is probably over $5,000 for the trip when you include taxes.



Staying at a Disney Resort gives you lots of amenities - a beautiful lobby and pools, on site restaurants and shops, proximity to parks or park transportation. You also get special services like delivery of any park purchases to your resort so you don't have to carry bags all day or worry about your souvenirs being stolen. You can use the Disney Magic Express so you don't even have to rent a car if you fly. And, of course, you can take advantage of the Extra Magic Hours that allow you to arrive early or stay late at a particular park.

Personally, I love the idea of a Magic Your Way plus Dining Plan. Its essentially an "all inclusive" option for your vacation. You don't have to worry about pulling out your wallet as many times during the day. You can focus on finding the ultimate souvenir without concern about maxing out your credit card. You don't have to cook, wash dishes or make your own beds. If you enjoy eating out and can eat the amount of food served at a Disney dinner then you are probably getting your money's worth.
Sanaa

OPTION B: STAYING IN A RENTAL HOUSE
We rented a three bedroom house with a private pool for $805 for six nights (not including taxes). We have to pay for our Park tickets separately ($1,049) so we're up to approximately $2,000 with taxes. If you are staying off property you probably plan on eating a few meals wherever you are already. We will eat one meal a day at the house - probably breakfast, but it might be dinner. The question is can we eat, drive and park for less than the $2,500+ difference?

Parking was $14 a day. You only have to pay once per day - just hold on to your receipt. So for 6 days estimate $84. Assume $150 for groceries and another $150 for gas. Our main meals tend to be lunches - which average about half of what dinners cost. Assume we spend $400 on table service meals - and another $250 on quick service meals and snacks. I estimate our total meal & parking costs to be about $1,000. Our grand total comes to roughly $3,000. We have to expend more effort driving, parking, etc. but we save about $2,000 by staying off property and paying for meals a la carte. That's almost enough for another trip!

So, ask yourself which is more important for the trip YOU are planning - saving money or immersing yourself in all that is Disney?

Front hall - rental house

Walt Disney World Attractions that ARE NOT Rides

Walt Disney World|Shows|Parades|Fireworks

Walt Disney World Attractions


I owe a nod to my niece for this post. When I invited her to come to Walt Disney World with us she replied, "no thanks. I get horribly motion sick and can't go on any rides." Huh?!? Who says "no" to Walt Disney World?

I reflected on how many rides my family actually goes on and the answer is very, very few.

Here is a list of things to do that most likely won't make you motion sick. This is just a starting place for planning a Disney vacation that isn't focused on rides.

I've included Attractions, Shows, Parades, Fireworks as well as Boats & Trains as they are more transportation than "rides", but still fun. There are so many, many other things that aren't on this list!

Main Street Show Magic Kingdom
Magic Kingdom
  • Walt Disney World Railroad
  • Main Street Vehicles
  • Tomorrow Land Transit Authority
  • Monorail
  • Mickey's Philharmagic (movie)
  • Carousel of Progress
  • Cinderella Castle
  • Country Bear Jamboree (animated characters)
  • Frontierland Shootin' Arcade
  • Hall of Presidents (animated characters)
  • Monster Inc. Laugh Floor
  • Swiss Family Treehouse
  • Tom Sawyer Island
  • Walt Disney World RailRoad Magic Kingdom
  • Town Square Theater
  • Character Greetings
  • Enchanted Tiki Room
  • Rose Garden
  • Dream Along with Mickey Show
  • Main Street Electrical Parade
  • Celebrate a Dream Come True Parade
  • Wishes Fireworks
  • Electric Water Pageant (Lagoon show)
  • Ferryboat from Ticket & Transportation Center
  • Liberty Square Riverboat

Free soda at EPCOT
EPCOT
  • Monorail
  • Turtle Talk with Crush
  • The Land Pavilion
  • The Seas Pavilion (Aquarium)
  • Extensive Gardens
  • World Showcase featuring 11 countries
  • American Adventure (animated characters)
  • Oh Canada (movie)
  • Captain EO (movie)
  • Circle of Life (movie)
  • Image Works
  • Mexico Pavilion at EPCOT
  • Imagination Pavilion
  • Innoventions
  • EPCOT Character Spot
  • Club Cool (free soda)
  • National Treasures Museum
  • Reflections of China (movie)
  • Illuminations Fireworks
  • Street Performers
  • American Theater (various visiting musical artists)
  • Friendship Boats
  • Playgrounds
  • Water "Spray Ground" Playground

 Hollywood Studios
Honey I Shrunk the Kids Playground at Hollywood Studios

Animal Kingdom
Animal Kingdom
  • Festival of the Lion King
  • Finding Nemo the Musical
  • Its Tough to Be a Bug (3D movie)
  • Flights of Wonder (bird show)
  • Maharajah Jungle trek (animal viewing)
  • Pangani Forest Exploration Trail (animal viewing)
  • Affection Section (animal petting zoo)
  • Conservation Station
  • Discovery Island trails (animal viewing)
  • Habitat Habit
  • Oasis Exhibits (animal viewing)
  • Cretaceous trail
  • Boneyard Playground
  • Mickey's Jammin Jungle Parade
  • Character Trails (meet n greet)
  • Wildlife Express 
Polynesian Resort Beach at night
Resorts (varies by location)
  • Playgrounds
  • Pools
  • Restaurants
  • Gardens
  • Walking/Hiking paths
  • Carriage rides
  • Fishing
  • Boat rentals
  • Sand beaches
  • Arcades
  • Bonfires
  • Pony Rides
  • Outdoor Movies
  • Free performances
Downtown Disney
  • The Magical Water Fountain Spray Ground
  • Restaurants
  • Shows
Illuminations Fireworks at EPCOT

Walt Disney World with A Wheelchair Part 4 Dining

Walt Disney World|Wheelchair|Dining

Disney Dining When You're in a Wheelchair


Table Service Restaurants
Dining can sometimes be a challenge if you don't plan ahead. Many Disney restaurants are crowded and hard to maneuver with a wheelchair - particularly Character Meals where everyone is moving around more than normal. For instance our daughter once was asked to transfer into a regular chair at Akershus during the Princess breakfast. Her wheelchair was safely stored and returned to us at the end of the meal.


Also, due to the need for extra space you may not get the prime views that the restaurant is famed for. If you want a good seat or the view the restaurant is known for make sure to ask for it before you are seated! Otherwise you will most likely be stuck out of the way.

Don't count on there being room for a wheelchair in a table service restaurant if you try to walk in! When you can, make advance dining reservations and be sure to specify that you will have a Guest in a wheelchair dining with you. Hopefully if Cast Members know about your needs ahead of time that they won't try to seat your party in a booth or a hard to reach corner.


You can (and should) make reservations for Character Dining, Dinner Shows and Signature Dining. If you've used a travel agent to plan your trip they can also give you insights on restaurants and make your dining reservations for you. The service is free!

You can call 407-WDW-DINE yourself for reservations if you want. Cast members are always happy to help you with reservations. However, its just as easy to create your own reservations online.

After you chose your restaurant and time you will get a screen labeled "Guest Information". This will include the restaurant, time, number in your party, etc. You will need to fill in a phone number that you can be reached at while on vacation. Next - and most importantly!- click on the box to the left of where it says "I have special requests or a food allergy."


Once you have checked that box, another window will open allowing you to specify any common food allergies as well as the fact that you will be need wheelchair accessibility. Not only do we request wheelchair access, we have two food allergies to contend with so I always start here. If I have any other special requests I can follow up with a call to WDW-DINE. Don't be afraid to try booking your own dining reservations on line. It's easy!

We tend to eat light so we only have one or two table services meals per visit. We've eaten at Sanaa, Akershus, Nine Dragons, Cape May Cafe and Kona Cafe with no problems.

What about Quick & Counter Service restaurants?
There are lots of options when it comes to dining at Walt Disney World. How do you handle the places where you can't make a reservation? If you are on the standard dining plan chances you have one quick service meal, one snack and one table service meal per person per night. If you are paying for your meals out of pocket, you probably still don't want to make every meal a table service meal.

Not all Quick service restaurants are equal when it comes to wheelchair accessibility. Some counter-service locations have narrow lines delineated with rails that aren't wide enough for a wheelchair. You will need to send someone for food or contact a host or hostess for assistance. Our typical strategy is to send one person to place the orders, pay and carry the food as some of the places we're tried can't accomodate even a manual wheelchair.
Focaccio Sandwich at Starring Rolls - great if you can make it through the chair maze!

For instance, Starring Rolls Bakery in Hollywood Studios has great sandwiches, but the area is a little corner, which you have to navigate a series of tables and heavy metal chairs to get to. It's a lot of work but worth it for delectable bakery goods. An easier choice in the Backlot Express which is crowded, but roomy enough to navigate without much problem. The hardest part will be finding a free table!

In the Magic Kingdom Cosmic Ray's has a lot of seating, but railings separating the lines so again you will probably have to ask someone else to order. Casey's Corner has good food & a few outdoor tables, but the indoor seating is bleachers (super cute sports theme) so not accessible. We all love the Kiddee Cones at Plaza Ice Cream Parlour but it has such a narrow line that it won't accommodate a wheelchair. One of us waits in line and orders the cones while everyone else waits outside


An easier place to get ice cream at the Magic Kingdom is Storybook Treats. It is an outside location with a small covered waiting area. They have yummy soft serve cones, sundaes and shakes.


At EPCOT in Future World we tend to go for the Electric Umbrella as it is quick; however the lines are impossible with a wheelchair. You'll need to split up to place your order. our We've also eaten at Sunshine Seasons. It can be very crowded! Its cafeteria style so again, its a good idea to leave the person in a wheelchair gaurding your table while some one else picks up the food. A great option is to try the various snack carts around the World Showcase. You can order food and find a shady spot under a tree or by the lake to eat.

I can't say that we've eaten at every Quick/Counter Service restaurant or snack cart. I wish I could give you a detailed list of your best choice when it comes to accessible casual dining, but it's nearly impossible. So much depends on the size of your wheelchair or ECV, whether you are traveling alone or with companions, your own food preferences...
For a complete list of Quick Service Restaurants, go to the Walt Disney World website. All I can say is that if you want to eat somewhere and find that you can't access it with your wheelchair, flag down the nearest Cast Member and politely explain the problem. Most Cast Members will be happy to help in anyway they can - from getting the host or hostess for you or even carrying your meal if you can't. Just be nice and ask - you might be amazed by the magical response!